Jennifer Gray Thompson: Disaster recovery that actually works
Jennifer Gray Thompson is a nationally recognized leader in wildfire recovery and resilience, and a fierce advocate for disaster survivors. Named a Forbes 50 Over 50 Impact Leader, she is the founder and CEO of After the Fire USA, a survivor-led, survivor-focused nonprofit advancing equitable recovery from megafires nationwide. After the 2017 North Bay Fires, she transformed a small local effort into a national model supporting communities after catastrophic fire. Jennifer was instrumental in delivering more than $6 billion in federal tax relief for disaster survivors. A former high school teacher and public administrator, she designs survivor-centered recovery systems, advises federal policy, and hosts the How to Disaster podcast, spotlighting leaders who know how recovery actually works.
In this episode, Jan and Jennifer discuss:
How mega fires have increased dramatically and reshaped disaster recovery in the U.S.
The mission of After the Fires USA is to support local leaders after disasters
Why collaboration between jurisdictions and leaders is essential in LA’s recovery
The limits of philanthropy versus the role of federal disaster funding
Key Takeaways:
Mega fires are becoming more frequent and complex, requiring new models of coordination and leadership. Communities must rely on collaboration rather than waiting for a single hero or agency to solve recovery.
Philanthropy can help with targeted needs, but it cannot replace federal disaster funding at the scale required. Public systems must function properly for recovery to be equitable and complete.
Building back to wildfire-prepared standards, including Zone Zero defensible space, is essential for future insurability and safety. These measures are practical and can still be implemented in ways that are visually appealing.
Trauma significantly affects how survivors make decisions in the first year after a disaster. Understanding this emotional reality is key to providing ethical support and avoiding exploitation.
“There is no one group or person; no one is a hero or a savior. The community itself is the hero and savior.” – Jennifer Gray Thompson
Connect with Jennifer Gray Thompson:
How to Disaster Podcast
Website: https://www.howtodisaster.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoDisasterPodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/howtodisaster
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-to-disaster/id1556177625
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qf4grpRpMbegzl56vM4fM
Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/How-to-Disaster/B08JJQ4MWC
After the Fire USA
Website: https://afterthefireusa.org
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@afterthefireusa
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afterthefireusa
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/afterthefireusa
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AfterTheFireUSA
Connect with Jan Brzeski:
Website: https://scipfinance.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbrzeski/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RebuildingLAafterthefires
Email: pr@scipfinance.com
Show notes by Podcastologist: Francine Poblete
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